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I am Violet, and I'll be your host today. Sat upon my pile of mounts and minions.

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And joining me will be And I am Hoka, a voice out creature with a sweet, sweet taste of for the Ruby Red with the behind the scene info of all things Final Fantasy XIV. And uh away we go. It's been a while. I know it's been a while.

SPEAKER_00 1:27

It has. Well, we had FanFest last where we were both a little cracked out.

SPEAKER_01 1:32

Oh me more so than than most others.

SPEAKER_00 1:36

Way more because you actually went. I got to experience everything digitally from my very cozy home in the void.

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And then I made the mistake of like, hey, let's record as I'm jet lag and barely had any sleep whatsoever.

SPEAKER_00 1:51

So but you know what? The the hype for Evercold has stayed like hardcore. Like it is, you can tell that they are already onto something. Like we're already hitting a nail. There is a there is a verb, there's a vibe, there's a thing going down. It is it is really good right now. I have seen so many things online about Evercold.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

So the the funny thing about this whole hype with Evercold right now, and you can tell, because we're both in the Dynamas uh data center, right? Which is like the quote unquote the the dead data center, the ghost town. The queue just to log in is a lot longer than it used to be. I mean, it's not longer as you know, it's not as long as like going to Ether or Crystal or anything of that nature, but it's it's oh ether's been locked down.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Oh, it's been stays locked down now.

SPEAKER_01 2:48

The great wall of Ether has forever been staying up. And it's been it's been incredible. So like it's a lot longer to get into a dynamic system as of late. And it's like the hype is real, you see a lot more sprouts running around. Uh the the just the incredible, the incredible feeling that we are uh on this train right now, heading towards Evercode, and I'm all for it.

SPEAKER_00 3:15

How do the how do the young creators say it? They're like, we are so back, chat. We're so back.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

I think I think I don't think we ever went away, personally, but uh I I think I may have said that quite a few times during the keynote. But we are so back.

SPEAKER_00 3:36

We are so um the excitement has definitely been top notch. Um I'm I've been feeling it. I've been feeling, but at some the same time, like I left off a lot of the grindier things to the last minute, right before patches these times around. And so I have been going through this whole like feast famine situation. I don't know if this happens with you, where you're just like, I do all the things that are exciting and fun, and then I like don't do the things that I'm I like, I want to do them, but I'm not, they're not like they're not top five, you know? And then you get around and you're just like, oh no, the next patch is coming. I should probably start on that.

SPEAKER_01 4:22

I want to get it just just like my PvP starting starting journey for this for this season. I'm like, oh wait, the new season just came out and uh I need to start going going. Um I got the emote for it. I'm just working my way up to to get the uh the new glam uh that they dropped and everything. So that's that's my goal for that.

SPEAKER_00 4:44

Uh I got to the emote too, and then I just pretty much went, okay, I'm gonna put this off to the side for a minute. Uh and I'm gonna go do everything else. And so I went and I did try the new uh crystal and conflict map, though. Uh the Archaea Harmonious big Google library vibes, if you know, you know. Um, but that map, because you have to stay on the crystals, like somebody has to stay on that crystal the whole time. Oh wow, it is so much more aggressive. Like, like it is um fighting in the library for the last novel on the shelf, aggressive. It is you can't like there's not a lot of like in other maps for crystalline conflict, there's a lot of you get the the the crystal locked and then you kind of back off for for mechanics, or you you kind of maneuver around it until the unlock comes through, yeah, and then you jump back on the crystal, and whoever has made it through that period of like trying to shove people into mechanics or trying to like survive jumps on the crystal and it's back to that, right? Yeah, um, this because you have to pretty much stay on the crystal the entire time, you don't get to get off of it because if you do, you've just completely like transferred at that point because the other team can jump in and um grab it. And it's it's just a constant, there's no break. Also, because there's much more aggressive with how much line of sight is broken in there, you don't get to throw fireballs through through walls anymore. Like you can literally duck behind stuff, and it's just like front lines where you can break line of sight constantly.

SPEAKER_02 6:41

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 6:43

So if you're looking for something like super aggressive and for for a map, and those maps go fast, then wait for that map to come up because that's the one for you. How fast does it go? About half the time of a normal map. Like, it is oh my god. I I literally have never been owned on a crystalline conflict map so hard in my entire gameplay existence in this game. Like, I like Crystalline Conflict for the fact that it's fast, but it's like there's some strategy to it. You're just kind of like you're trying to bop back and forth. This map has basically reformulated everything to the point where you will just if you're not really good at PvP, you will basically have your entire ass handed to you. Um with a little cherry on top.

SPEAKER_01 7:39

Uh which is probably why I have not gotten in there yet, which I probably will eventually, because I really want to experience it. But if it uh if it reminds me of how um I think there was like a a smaller PvP World of Warcraft map uh that they had. If it's anything similar to that, then oh, I am going to get my butt handed to me.

SPEAKER_00 8:03

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And and honestly, I'll be I'll be so down with you. One of the things I want uh well that I'm so down for that I want so badly to do is actually grab the HJP crew and see if we can do another PvP night because Crystal and Conflict is like the perfect place to like just grab 10 friends and do the 5v5, and then you get to kind of play through things with people who maybe aren't like pros, pros, but everybody's gonna get a little bit more of a chance to feel out the maps and kind of figure out how they work. That would be really fun.

SPEAKER_01 8:38

I think it'd be fun too, because I that way anyone that doesn't really PvP and whatnot, they can we can like you know guide them through and everything, yeah. You know, they can experience what PvP is.

SPEAKER_00 8:50

The biggest thing about PvP and in this game, especially, is just kind of realizing that it's not something that I don't know. One of the things that I I I have kind of learned about this game over time, and maybe it's just a me thing, um, but my personal growth through playing this game has been realizing that I don't have to take any of this too seriously. Like I don't have to get ego involved in whether or not I win a PvP match or not. Like, yes, over time it can become frustrating. And once it hits my wall of frustration, which I I pretty much I take a break, I go do something else for a while. And the game is big enough and has so many different game modes, I don't feel like I have to do the same thing over and over and over again. Um, so I can like expand into other areas and do other things. It's also less like directly grindy. One of the things that that's really fun is that that yeah, this map is difficult, and maybe I don't like this map, but if I wait like 30 minutes to an hour, the next map will come up and I can go do that one, you know?

SPEAKER_01 10:03

Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 10:05

Um, same thing with uh front lines. I really like the chaos of frontlines. I know a lot of people don't like it. Um, but it's very much group tactics. It's you try to hopefully you get on a team with enough alliances of people, which it's a huge map with huge groups of people, and you just straight clumped up with your team as best as you can.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

Um, and just engage, disengage as quickly as possible.

SPEAKER_01 10:34

So this is me going into front lines, right? You so so think of the uh the the deformed uh elmo uh with the fire in the background with the arms in the air.

SPEAKER_00 10:44

That's me, that's me in front line, like chaos everywhere. And the great thing, and the thing is, is like I get how some people get very kind of like hyper ego involved with like I want to get all of my achievements and I want to get this that and the other. But if one of the things you can do is just kind of like take a deep breath and let that go, and just realize that it's more about you finding the rhythm within the game mode. Yes, then you can pretty much find the fun and all of it. And and at the end of the day, if it's not for you, you don't have to do it, it's completely freaking optional.

SPEAKER_01 11:25

It is it is optional, and you know the the rewards on there are pretty cool uh for the seat. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:32

Let me tell you about where the glam. The glam is the chef's kiss excellence. Yes. Especially if you're into like street style or that, yeah, there's there's a lot of that.

SPEAKER_03 11:46

So but there's a little excited to try to get it.

SPEAKER_00 11:49

Yeah, me too. I'll get there, but um, I have currently been totally in on cosmic exploration. I've put off cosmic for a long time. Like I did it at first, but I found the grind getting through the novice levels of the tools just was it was too much grind for me. I I I didn't really enjoy it all that much um because of how grindy it is. Like, I like crafting and gathering, I don't love crafting and gathering. I a hundred percent appreciate and worship at the feet and the altar of those who can get all of their melds right and can synthesize the the most excellent gear in the game. I will always be at least five steps behind those people. I will have some of the best gear, I will have some of the meld, some of them, not all of them. But mainly I'm just doing it so I can make the pretty clothes that come out of treasure mats.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Well, if you're five steps behind, then I'm like 25 steps behind. Because I'm still trying to level up some of the crafting uh uh yeah, it's been um a slow burn on that front for me.

SPEAKER_00 13:10

Um okay, so I'm gonna give everybody who's listening my hints, tricks to if you are the sort of person who just wants it like if you're the sort of person who is cool with I'm going to spend X amount of time per day leveling my crafting and gathering, and then I want to go off and do other things, okay, then doing cosmic exploration for like an hour, and then maybe hitting up some love quests for like an hour, um, and then doing your grand company uh turn ins, that's the way to do it because you will get a huge amount of levels per day. You don't have to input more than at most an hour and a half to two hours into it, and you will get anywhere from one and a half whole levels to as much as like ten whole levels in a day. Okay. If you are the sort of person like myself who gets a little bit hyper focusy on stuff, then might I suggest that you um build up your love quests and then you search through your list of crafts for that one thing that you can just sit down and just mass create and just do that until your stuff breaks after you've done all your love quests and everything else, and then you will get your levels very quickly that way. I also suggest custom deliveries, um, those will get you a lot. Uh, do any kind of like job questing, like the the stuff once you get to Shadowbringer, they have like an entire storyline of stuff that's very good to get into. Um, they have a similar thing in Endwalker and Dawn Trail. Uh, before that, for Stormblood, the storyline stuff that they have for each job is actually very helpful and it gets you through your levels fairly quickly. Don't put off doing your job quests as a crafter and gatherer, especially if you are someone who is looking at the internet trying to find certain you know macros to do stuff, because you will find yourself without the ability to complete those macros because you don't have the abilities to do them.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Yeah, because you didn't do the job quest. And I learned that like the learned at the uh at the very beginning of me playing this game where I went through and like, oh, what's this? Oh, a job quest. Oh, it has an ability.

SPEAKER_00 15:53

Oh, I want to stick with that. Yeah, do your job quest. I'm serious, I'm not kidding. Do your job quest. I know you don't want to. I know all of you out there in internet land are like, but I'm just never do your job quests.

SPEAKER_01 16:10

Uh I can I can think of one uh particular AJP uh member that still needs to do their Dragoon job quest. Uh-oh. You know who you are. You know who you are.

SPEAKER_00 16:22

We're not gonna call you out for the whole internet, but you know who you are. Yeah, do your job quests, y'all. Do it. All right. Now that we've harped on that enough. But yeah, crafting and gathering is probably like it's not really designed for you to just sit down and just go at it hard uh over the course of several days. So it's as far as I'm concerned, it's just the most ADHD unfriendly thing in the entire game. How dare! You know, zero out of ten, no notes, absolutely just do not. But if you are willing to say you can grind it out actually fairly quickly. I do recommend finding the LE quests. Uh ARR is probably the worst for LE quests, but it gets you through it so much faster. Like I introduced that to one of my friends who was trying to get their crafting and gathering up. They finally started tackling it. And she realized that uh I was actually correct, and she had been sitting there trying to just craft her way by just making stuff up to the correct level. And of course, that is the grindiest and the longest way to do it. Just go grab yourself some love quests, do like two or three of them, and you'll pretty much be maxed out. Do your grand company turn-ins, you'll get through that 10 to 20 levels that you need to get through to get over the ARR hump. Do your job quests, and then you're set up for Heavensword, and then it gets a lot better from there. And do your job quests, and do your job quests, anyway. Okay. So um, not going into any story stuff, but this time around when uh 7.5 uh dropped in uh right after fan fest, I got I went all in on MSQ. Uh I really enjoyed it. It was really well done. No spoilers, just reviews. It is I I had a good time with it. Um, I will say for all those people who have had to be subjected to my constant and incessant rants about how the story gets set up. It I one, I apologize. Two, um, no, I don't. Three, um it was I called it. I called it, I called it. Okay. Um anyway. That's that's a totally different podcast. Not this one.

SPEAKER_01 18:56

No, yeah, that's a that's a call completely different one.

SPEAKER_00 19:01

So uh, so what we're where how are you thinking about how well where the story is going? Getting excited for for how things are okay.

SPEAKER_01 19:09

So I'm gonna put proclaim this now. Uh I love Hamarut. I just love her. I know she's an Sienna and everything, but you know how people you know view Emmett Emmitself and whatnot. This is how I view Homerot. I adore her so much. And I can't tell you why, but I just do. I just adore her.

SPEAKER_00 19:37

Okay, all right. Well, let's leave it there before we get too far into it because I was gonna leave it with I know you know, if you know you know, but like you're out here dropping names and everything. Damn.

SPEAKER_01 19:50

Well, I mean then I mean the the the the the title uh of it is in the first execlopedia of that's that's very true.

SPEAKER_00 19:58

It it is, and so if you have any knowledge of the of of of the the external game or whatever uh the how this is something that's been mentioned, like I love how they do that where they they bring things back from like the very very beginning. Yeah, so if you were paying attention to the way that things were set up literally at the beginning of ARR with with the the ASIANs, then yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:24

So anyway, but um but um so that's my first one. The second part of that is that I'm loving the direction that they're going with this. Um it really sets up Evercode really, really well. Uh oh yeah, lead leading up and leading up to that point. Uh you know, we can say what we want to say about Ontrail, based on trail and everything. You know, people will forever be split between based on trail. Um post on trail? The post all I've been loving it um just the setup and everything. Did it take us for almost forever to to get to this point? I guess sure, why not? You know what, and everything, but I I I for for the for the most part though I I loved the the past what two three patches for Dawn Trail, and it's been setting up really nicely to this.

SPEAKER_00 21:27

So I actually kind of like Dawn Trail as an epilogue. Now that it's been established as the as what it is, like now that we know that it is still technically part of that first story arc, uh, the way that it was described in the keynote, um it is the epilogue. It's the epilogue to our first story. It it's yeah, it's just our transition point into our next, you know, storyline that we're gonna be going into. And so just the thing about epilogues is that if you're not expecting them to come, they can get a little awkward because the and I enjoy an epilogue. I like all of like the little snippets of story that are that are there. Like I want to know more about everything that's going on with these characters. So being or even meeting new characters in an epilogue, it's just it doesn't matter. Anything that's just kind of like a transition story, some people are gonna feel awkward about it. Uh, some people are not gonna enjoy it as much. There are a lot of people who have very strong feelings about hating epilogues, and that's fine. I think also the fact that I mean, if you have a video, if you're creating a video game, you never want to tell anyone, oh hey, this is an epilogue. Because it is such a controversial point. Like, and not a lot of people are gonna be excited, like some people just don't get into them as much. Personally, I love them. I I love getting those extra bits.

SPEAKER_01 23:05

I view Dawn Trail for all the uh anime watchers out there. I view Dawn Trail as our summer vacation episode.

SPEAKER_00 23:14

And and which is gonna lead to where we all know that the the summer break episode, of course, always leads into some dark heavy stuff, right?

SPEAKER_01 23:24

Exactly. That's how I view Dawn Trail, which is like Yeah, you know, it it was our it was our summer vacation, and then like the post-dawn trail, which is where it's gonna lead into Evercode, and it's that switch.

SPEAKER_00 23:41

And that's kind of the way that they've built a lot of this. So, anyway, uh let's talk about how they brought in some of this other story. This is the this is an interesting story. I like this. So the 24-person raid series for Dawn Trail is the Echoes of Anadeal, and the Echoes of Anadeal is literally pulling the you know fan favorites from Final Fantasy XI, which is the other MMO, right? It's the MMO that came first. Um, personally, I don't know if I'll ever play 11 because I can't get through the savage fight of getting the dang thing installed and playable, but um I hear a lot of people love it, and there are a lot of people in HJP and other groups and other people online, and in fact, one of the things that's very interesting is that the crossover that is in Dawn Trail has actually re-sparked and has even further sparked interest for players of 14 to either go back and play in Van A Deal or to create new characters in Vanadil, so much so that they're they were in plans to shut down the MMO or at least put it on maintenance only. No, no content updates. They're now planning content updates for it. Like that's that's how good this crossover was.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

I and and I'm glad for like you know, all the OG players that played 11 and you know, played 14 and all that stuff, and you know, I I myself am interested in going to actually play 11 for the first time because the last time I tried to play the beta for 11, I received a copy and tried to install it, and it took nearly all night to install it because it I believe it was like six discs just to install uh 11 at a time to uh to my PC. And by the time by the time I got it fully installed, my PC was not able to handle to play it. So I missed out on 11 uh mainly because my PC was uh a was not up to up to par during the time.

SPEAKER_00 26:05

I I'll fully admit that at the time what it came down to for me is that I was a I was a hardcore WoW player. I tend to be a sort of person who just sort of sticks to one game and I don't really play a lot of other things. Um, all of my community, all of my friends, I was never a person who got into Final Fantasy. My first real introduction to Final Fantasy, where I actually started playing it for myself, was I played like an hour and a half of seven back in the 90s, and then and then um in uh 2019, I was like, I'm tired of WoW, and I'm tired of Blizzard, and I I hate Activision Blizzards mess, so I need to find something else. And I found 14, and I really honestly did not believe that I was gonna get this attached to this game, but I have. So I'm the same way.

SPEAKER_01 27:21

I'm the same way because 14 is just incredible. So much to do, so little time to do it.

SPEAKER_00 27:28

Oh, I know, I know, especially as adults. Um the the the mentioning of the respect for players' time and the fact that they are trying to build it out so that people can really can kind of like mix and match the things that are their favorite game modes and still feel like they can make progression happen for their character. Hearing a dev say that is like I got tangles. Like I was so happy.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

And and and the one thing I love is that they actually acknowledge it. And they're like, you know, we we realize a lot of our uh player base are a lot older, like us. And yeah, you know, we don't have as much time, and like I I love how they're trying to be like, you know, here's the a possible new play style for you, and and so you know, have at it, and then all you know, the hardcore younger gen uh younger generation of players, you know, they can they'll they'll have their own playstyle, they'd be able to play a lot longer than than we are able to, and everything, but it's like at the same time, it's like I love how they acknowledge the older players.

SPEAKER_00 28:43

I I think the thing that does get a little frustrating after a while, though, is that um the way that this game does, and it I get it. I it's like I do understand why they're crab walking towards certain goals as opposed to just directly heading for them. Um because you gotta you gotta help people transition, you gotta help people kind of over the hump to be okay with the changes. Um but one of the things that would be really nice to see is a direct upgrade rather than just going back and adding things like truss and adding things like uh like AI sort of things to the game, those are nice and they're nice to have, but I really want to see true improvement of the game from sort of almost a ground up perspective, because right now the hardest part of getting people to come and play 14. Like, let's take my kids, for example. My kids are hardcore game players, they play some of the most tedious games. Like, it's not the reading, it's not, okay, because both of my care my my kids are huge Deltarune fans, um, massive amounts of reading in that game. Um, they're both, you know, huge Minecraft games, uh gamers. That that game is tedious AF. Like, um, but one of the there's and so and they are also being into a lot of other aspects that you would find in 14. But the fact that the story takes so long to pick up and move forward, the fact that the introduction to the gameplay is uh extremely separated, and it's something that a lot of creators have even talked about is that the game is good, obviously. It is very, very good, but getting new players involved, it feels almost sometimes like you're having to say, okay, look, you're in this is an investment game. You're gonna have to invest a certain number of hours before it's going to quote click and get good. Um, for me, I started playing in early 2019, and it took me that entire year, by the way, for it to finally click. And it was me just coming on, playing for like 10, 12 hours, and then putting another 10, 12 hours into it, and then going, okay, I'm not, it's not whatever, I don't care. And then I would go and try like I tried different jobs. I thought, because I didn't know at first that you could have all the jobs, because I just jumped into the game and was just going off of what it was telling me, and I didn't understand half of it. So I would literally just like restart a whole new character with a whole new class, and it's like this will be different. It wasn't, um, because you can have all the jobs. So uh my main character is like the 20th iteration of me actually just trying, and it wasn't until I finally just got to the point where I was like, This is the only MMO I really want to play because all the others I've tried don't really, I don't like anything about them. They're not that fun to play. This is the only one that at least is not frustrating, right? So I'm just I'm just gonna do this with my wife, and this is how we're gonna spend time. And so we created joke characters that he evolved over time into where they are now, which is crazy.

SPEAKER_03 32:38

For a while.

SPEAKER_00 32:40

Um so one of but going back to to the the echoes of Vanadiel, we finally got the finale, it came out in 7.5. Uh it's it's called Windhurst Walk. I refer to it as Windworst, because holy crap, the mechanics do not play, they do not play.

SPEAKER_02 33:04

No. No, not at all.

SPEAKER_00 33:07

Um they're not hard to learn necessarily. It's just a lot of everything all at once. You just want to sit there and play that song, you know, a little bit of everything all of the time. A little bit of everything all of the time. The whole time you're playing. Um, the the hardest thing to remember, I just like a a little. I didn't tell you this, but I told you this. Last boss of uh Windwurst. Sorry, Windhurst, Windhurst. Don't come for me, Shantoto. Um uh just remember there is a constant auto attack that is hitting all of the tanks all of the time. The entire time. So if the tank goes down, that auto attack is just gonna switch to the next person in the DPS list and it's gonna literally just annihilate every single person in that alliance all the way down. So, what happens usually is that um the healer is somewhere around just under the tanks because of the enity that's generated not from their attacks, but also from um healing, right? Now, if you're a good healer, you can manage to keep your your enity fairly low. Um, if you overheal, you'll be a little bit higher on that. But once that auto attack has worked its way through one shot killing, because it is hard hit attack, every single one of the DPS on your team, the healers are next. And if the healers have not snap just boom gotten that tank up and healed to be able to take the auto, it's it's over. Your alliance is gone. Don't don't, because everybody else, just don't even try because everybody else is is already trained from every other fight in the game to let's raise a healer, and then the healer will raise the tank, and then we'll go on about our merry way, except what happens is you raise the healer, the healer then gets one-shotted by the uh the auto attack, even if they heal up to full, and then the tank never gets raised. And then if the tank does get raised, they still can't heal themselves up to full. So then they get two-shotted by the auto attack. So, yeah, I think people are starting to kind of clue in now that if the tank goes down in the alliance, you gotta you gotta pick the tank up and then actually heal them and then pick up the healer. But yeah, that was a frustration I've had a few times when I first went in there is that uh like our tank would go down, and then you just watch the entire alliance just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And everybody else is what is wrong with you? Why are you so bad at this? And the whole time we're just like auto attack. But he is attacking. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Yeah, it was it was uh it's a little it's a little frustrating. Um, how was have it been? I know you've been in uh in Echoes Vanity all a few times.

SPEAKER_01 36:21

I have, uh, and I've gotten in as melee, in which in which I go in there and be like, why did I pick melee again?

unknown 36:31

Right.

SPEAKER_01 36:33

All the moving around and whatnot.

SPEAKER_00 36:35

Has it just been they or had the last past uh post patch uh like uh dungeons and things been a little unfriendly to melee? Like I see the melee struggling.

SPEAKER_01 36:46

Um a little bit, mainly because like you know, I've been playing okay, so I've been playing Viper quite a bit lately, like a lot more than than any other class, because I'm I've been loving that class. Viper is so much fun. Uh, and I I've been telling people that from like from the get-go, like Viper is fun to play. And now and and now with the whole uh Evolve um system that's gonna be coming out, I feel I I I I tell people Viper and Picnomancer were the prototypes for the Evolve mode. Yeah, they really are. But um, but yeah, I've been going to as melee, and like my frustration isn't so much like my damage output. My frustration is like I am constantly moving everywhere. Uh and it's not it is not just the alliance raid or the dungeon. This is also like the new uh the new normal raids, uh the the raid series, that the the Arcadian raid series as well. It's like I'm constantly moving. Like, if you watch me play, you probably get motion sickness just to see the where I'm pushing my putting my camera, where I'm moving to, and just dashing everywhere. And so it's like uh it's uh it's fun, but at the same time, it's like I just want to be like a black mage and just staying in my circle and just cast spells. And I've seen I've seen black mages, I know you don't move because you will still take the hit and you will just sit there in your circle, and I like I got that award, I don't need none of this. And and I've sitting and I'm sitting there going, I'm so envious of you right now because I just want to stay still just like you and just still do damage and not have to move so much.

SPEAKER_00 38:48

Have you figured out the uh the sneaky um range that they put into uh Viper?

SPEAKER_01 38:58

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_00 39:00

Okay, so one of the things that I loved about Viper when I found this out, it's crazy. So they actually put in in the um, it looks like it's supposed to be AoE attacks to begin with, but if you actually look how it's set up, you can very quickly jump out of range of something, flip over, and use ranged AoE attacks, which are actually single-target drop-offs that will give you uh keep your uptime without having to be on the boss.

SPEAKER_01 39:31

Oh yeah. I've been oh god, what's that? Uh oh god, it's been a while. Uh, but no, I I know what you're talking about. Um, yeah, I I've been using using though as well as much as I can.

SPEAKER_00 39:47

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, um, the the whole vice pit into uh what is it? Uh I can't remember. But um it's it's one of those things where it took me a while to have to try and explain to one of my FC mates because um it is kind of hidden because it's you have to go into I think it's either Vice Winder or Vice Pit, and then that gives you access to uh Hunter's Den, which then gives you um Twin Blood and Twin Fame. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's the and then you can uncoiled Fury, and that's the that's the one that gives you the big, you know, 680 to the first enemy. Anything, by the way, for people who are interested, um, if something in the tooltip says here's the potency to the first enemy, and then it's you know 75% or 50% or whatever percentage less for each target after that, that is not really technically an AoE ability. That is technically a single target with a you know percentage of hit to other targets.

SPEAKER_02 40:58

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 40:59

So while you it what it gives you is the flexibility of being able to use it in both your rotation for your single target as well as being able to put it in your rotation for your AoE. Now it is a less powerful, usually, usually, not always, sometimes, uh target uh abil target ability. Um, so you don't necessarily want to put it in your single target uh rotation as like a standard part of the rotation. But in certain circumstances, you know, like when you have a giant AoE around the boss where you have to leap backwards to save your tail, then uh keep in mind those abilities so you can shove them in there. Keep your uptime.

SPEAKER_01 41:44

I've been yeah, I've been using that quite a bit, um, along with the the normal range, uh, which is uh withering snap.

SPEAKER_00 41:53

Um writing snap, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 41:55

Yeah, so uh I've been I've been using both whenever I'm out of range. I use if if if I have uncoiled fury, I will use that first, most definitely. Uh and I've been you know been using my rotation just to get get uh enough points just to have it full, especially if I if I know in a fight that I'll be in a range somewhere, I'm I I'm trying to get as much points as I can just so I can use Uncoil Fury as much as I can.

SPEAKER_00 42:24

Oh, yeah, absolutely. Um, and I'm really I'm not bringing this up as I think that you're doing anything other than like hitting all your marks. You're an excellent player. It's more of a hey, as a tip to those people who might be listening, oh yeah, by the way.

SPEAKER_01 42:39

If you think ability, right?

SPEAKER_00 42:42

It's just like um reminding people on uh uh uh almost all of the melee, with the exception of Monk. Monk is monk has now got a couple of ranged abilities, but they're a little harder to get to, and you actually have to like build up to them, so you have to know the fight to really kind of like have them on deck.

SPEAKER_02 43:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:04

Uh whereas um almost all of the other melees now come with a a ranged attack or a ranged mode that will give you the or part of your rotation that will actually keep your uptime. So um make sure you go through your actions and traits and like sort that out and make sure you've kind of got your rotation down for that for when those situations come up.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Just do it and do your job quests.

SPEAKER_00 43:32

And do your job quest. But yeah, the the the honestly, the um I was even inspired from the Echas of Anadeal uh to want to try a living. It looks really fun. I've watched some some uh walkthroughs and some some different things that people have done, and it looks cool, but I'll be honest with you, I looked at what it would take to install it and get it running on my system and all of Other things and I will stick with 14. 14's good for me. Thanks. So I hope that uh um on the other hand, if you are someone who has played, or if you are someone who maybe has a system that's not as complicated setup as mine, because I'm on a particular Linux setup, the for the way I like to do things, um if you are running Windows, it's a lot easier to set up. Uh I would I would go ahead and try it and see. You might enjoy it.

SPEAKER_01 44:36

I think um I think that might be in the plans at the current time with HJP uh to do an event to uh you know get people set up and start the account. And uh there is a free trial. There is a free trial. So you don't have to pay a subscription. There is a free trial.

SPEAKER_00 44:56

The free trial is complicated though, because it's a 14-day free trial.

SPEAKER_02 45:01

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 45:02

But only if you're a new person. If on the other hand you were a returning player, you can access an unlimited free trial.

SPEAKER_01 45:12

Yes, because you've played a game way before anyone else did.

SPEAKER_00 45:15

So basically, they're giving returning players free, like free, unlimited access. Like, but you have to buy the game to have access to the unlimited trial, from what I can gather.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 45:30

Which is weird, and I don't really fully understand it. But um, yeah, we tried to get the family, we're all new players on it, and it was gonna be a 14-day trial. And I was like, don't get me wrong, 14-day trial sounds cool, and it's it's it's uh, you know, but when you're you come from 14 where it's like, hey, you have a no-time restriction free trial, it now goes all the way up through Shadowbringer, and now to be restricted to, well, you get 14 days, and then we need you to buy the game, and then we need you to pay for at least one month, uh, which is on a really weird pay scale, and then you can have one character that you can have on an unlimited trial. And I'm like, um, okay. Uh okay. Uh no, no, no, thank you.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

I'm alright.

SPEAKER_00 46:29

I mean, and but again, it's one of those things where I think if I had more friends where I had more people to like, you know, walk me through it, maybe I might be more interested in it. But I was trying to find something I could play with my family, and that one just became a little bit more complicated than I wanted to deal with. I'm a simple smooth-brained bunny. Wait, what can you expect from me?

SPEAKER_01 46:52

I mean, so am I, but I'm I'm more actually I can't say Ellison anymore. Uh nope. No, I can't say Ellison anymore. I went cat brain. And now it's everybody break out the laser. Instead of howdy, I say Meowdy.

SPEAKER_00 47:10

Meowdy! Yay!

SPEAKER_01 47:13

Uh I love it. Yeah, I I love your guys' reaction when you guys first saw my Makote character.

SPEAKER_00 47:21

Like, oh no, what happened?

SPEAKER_01 47:24

You shrunk.

SPEAKER_00 47:28

You got all short and cute. All right. So um all the extreme mounts have come out now that we've gotten our last extreme trial. So now, if you're one of those people who really likes to like on level like uh gopher mounts, um start doing those extreme trials. I guess we need to start getting HJP events to go and do extreme trials so that maybe people can get uh get their wings. Um I know that uh one of my friends who who's big uh into doing the the on-level stuff is like one set of wings away from being able to go and get the last set, and the last set is like we're talking these gorgeous angel wings. So if that's a thing you're into, go for it. Like now's the time. Um now's the time. Well, I mean, we've got we've got seven months. Come on, y'all. Uh the next thing I wanted to talk about. Oh god, have you gotten your succubus hoodie yet?

SPEAKER_01 48:36

No.

unknown 48:37

No.

SPEAKER_00 48:38

No, I thought for sure you'd have gotten your hoodie already.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

I I I know, but the pricing for it right at the moment, uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 48:49

We got super lucky when we went and we did treasure maps um at the beginning of uh the the patch drop.

SPEAKER_03 48:56

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_00 48:57

And we uh wound up getting, I think it was like five or six of them. I don't know. I've just been sitting here and making jeans and hoodies for everybody in my FC. I had a little bit of cloth left over, so I made one for Adam 8 bit, who is in your FC.

SPEAKER_02 49:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 49:17

That's Tom, Heather's husband for uh Heather Display. And he he was very excited about it, so I'm very happy. I I had a moment of like, I don't know, maybe he's already got it. And then like I there very kind of like surreptitiously slid up and was like, hey Tom, Heather, did either one of you have this thing? Come to find out he's been trying to get this this hoodie for like a month. That's awesome. There you go. I just happened to have it. There you go. Hope you enjoy it.

SPEAKER_03 49:53

Oh, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_00 49:55

Yeah, I'm so glad that that worked out. The the things that um oh god, did we talk about what happened with Chloe's Wondrous Tales? No, we haven't, and I've seen people with the particular amounts for it, and I'm like, oh okay, so to to give like a quick download of the changes to Chloe's uh Wondrous Tales, if you don't do your Chloe's Wondrous Tales, once you get to a certain point in Heavensword, they introduced a um level uh a leveling like mechanic, it's uh way to encourage people to do certain things, um, but also get extra XP for for jobs and so forth. Um, and what it is is that you go to to Idol Shire. Um if you know, you know, when you get to that point, once you get past uh or get into the M patches of Evansword, you go to Idleshire, you talk to the little cat girl. Um, it actually starts, if I remember correctly, with an Ellion or somebody who's in the field in Idol Shire. You should talk to the the Blue Quest dude, I think. And um anyway, that opens up the ability to get a weekly quest log, what is essentially what it is. And it's uh you open it up and it gives you a series of duties that you can complete uh that will get you stickers that you put in your little sticker book, and you can go turn it into Chloe, and each one of those little stickers represents a story that you have done um and you have retold to her. And if you get one all in a line, then it is actually a cohesive story. Or if you're like me and you're determined to disappoint a little cat girl, all you hand her is a bunch of fragmented stories who that aren't even capitalized properly, which is stickers like all stuck in random places.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_00 52:05

Uh, you get a series of standard rewards. Uh if you if you just get nine seals but no lines, you will at least have the option of either an Alleghen Platinum piece, which is 10,000 gill, uh 500 uh uh Alleghen Tom Stones of Poetics, or you can get whatever is the top level um time worn map that you can access. Oh, yes, and you will also get anywhere from about half to a full level's worth of XP for each turn in. So weekly, if you've just got one job that you've been kind of like trying to get up, and some and if you're low enough, I think if you're below 60, you can get as as many as two levels, um, or a level and a half, something like that. Something like that. It's a lot of XP, it's a lot of XP. Um, if you get a line of stickers, then you can get an MGP gold card for 30,000 MGP. It you can also get a bronze certificate, which is usually turned in for things like minions, um, a couple of glam items, a few other things. Uh, you may need as many as two, which can be two weeks worth of a line. Um you get uh, and then you can get 50 tomstones of whatever your top level tomestones that you have access to are. It's completely adjusted based on your top job that you have on your character. Um, so if you are in the end game, then you have act then it's going to be giving you in-game uh tombstones. If you are not in the end game, then it gives you just poetics. Um, you get one point or one sticker per like uh thing that that you have marked off. You can then get points, they're called second chance points. You get a second chance point for every single time you enter a duty with someone who hasn't done it before. You can then use those second chance points to redo something. If you are particularly lazy, like myself, and you get close to the end of the week when it has to be turned in, it has a deadline at the top of the book when you open up the menu. Uh you can just unsync or unrestrict any of the duties you want to do and just go handle them and then uh go turn it in and get your rewards. The certificates do actually go. You can technically, technically, though I have only heard this about this in myth. I think I've done it once in the six years that I have played this game. I have once gotten three lines, and that is a single gold and three silver certificates. The silver certificates now not just get you like one or two things, um, you now have access to a good number of the mounts that were once only available to gold certificate turn-ins have been moved down to silver certificate turn-ins.

SPEAKER_01 55:23

Yes. Which I've seen one and I want it.

SPEAKER_00 55:30

I want all of them because, of course, my mighty mountain of of mounts and minions, I must maintain. Um, that's a lot of alliteration. Anyway, my wife, who is the luckiest bunny, uh, wound up having a stash of silver certificates. So as soon as she found out about the the change, she went and cashed them all in and then had to show up on all of her new mounts. And I was just like, you lucky bunny.

SPEAKER_01 55:56

Um I love you, but you lucky bunny.

SPEAKER_00 56:02

Yep. I'm not jealous at all about the fact that you now have mounts that I don't have access to, so I'm over here furiously trying to get a line of stickers. Uh, it's uh two of them, and it's not working out so good for me. No, uh, which is frustrating.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

Not at all.

SPEAKER_00 56:20

Not at all, Chloe. You tiny cat girl that I don't want to wring the neck of at all. Probably. Uh anyway, so now there's a new thing that has been introduced. Um, occasionally you'll see in your book, depending on I think where what level or whatever you're at, you'll have like a little four-leaf clover and a two on there. And the way that it works is that if you complete that uh duty, which it's almost always from what I have seen, you get the two four-leaf clover on duties that um you cannot unsync. So you you have to do them like straight up. Uh, it will give you two stickers for the price of one. So that could be a faster way to do it, or at least a more fun way to get more stickers, and hopefully be able to get uh more stickers in a line. I don't know. I haven't been able to do that part of it, but we'll see.

SPEAKER_01 57:22

Yeah, we'll see. Uh we'll see. I mean, at the time of the recording, I did pick up the new book, so I'm hoping to get some uh some silver certificate that the for the next one, but uh fingers, toes, paws, and claws all crossed for that one, let me tell you. I know, right?

SPEAKER_00 57:44

There was also a housing update. I don't know how much changes how many changes you've been making to your house or not. I I completely redid uh Luna's house, um, which I I'm kind of the de facto decorator for some of my friend group. Uh I know that that we have quite a few incredibly talented decorators in the HJP group. Um, I recommend that if you have any questions on how to do some really cool housing stuff, go ask Atlas or go ask Maple. Um there are two members of our our Discord group who are absolutely excellent at doing um housing. The housing update so far that we got is we got one more interior design, which is the dark minimalist, which my little godheart loves so much. And then uh the the other updates we got were of course to the storage. So now I have more places to put more things. That uh that absolutely won't become a problem for me at all at any point.

SPEAKER_01 58:50

No, no, not at all. More stuff, which is funny because uh okay, so at the time of this recording, I just saw something incredible for for the yard, and I may may do that, and because like my yard right now, I love my yard. I I absolutely adore my yard right now, especially because I have a Kugari house. Uh, it's got the OSAN uh on the side, which I have I have like for so I have blocked off the viewing of it, it's like covered with trees. So even if you go into it, you're safe. No, you know, your privacy is safe. You can just sit in there and you're you're good and whatnot. What I just saw, I am probably I'm most likely gonna do just to mess people up and try to get into my house.

SPEAKER_00 59:43

Okay, I'm not gonna say it.

SPEAKER_01 59:46

I'm not gonna say it here.

SPEAKER_00 59:48

You're just gonna let it be a surprise.

SPEAKER_01 59:50

Yes, and what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna work on it, and I'm gonna be like, hey, come check out my house and see if you guys like it, and then that's that's gonna be the big review. But I will say though, I will I will say though, in my house right now, in the basement, uh, I did rework it to where it was a movie theater, and now I have set it up where it is a stage uh area, so I have a walk, uh I have a runway, I have a run runway, and also I have a backstage area for people to get to prep and all that stuff, just in case we do some sort of indoor uh fashion glam event. Um I just need to I need to uh spice up the decorating a little bit more. But uh but yeah, uh overall it's 95% done uh in everything that's down there and everything. But the rest of my house, I you know, I I I love how it is laid out and everything right now. Um knowing me, I probably will just be like the hell with this and store everything and start all over from scratch with a new interior design. So that's just that's just how that's just how I work. So uh, but no, uh my front yard, I'm going to rework that, and I probably will uh make a big review of it whenever I'm like, hey, my front yard is done. Come check it out.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:14

Cool. I I we need to do a housing tour soon in HJP. We need to do that again.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:20

Um it's been a long time since the last one, so a lot of people have done make a lot of changes from uh from then to now.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:30

So oh yeah, especially with the new spaces that have been opened. I know the the um the Kraken's Call FC house has had big changes to it. I haven't done a lot of big changes to my FC, um, but like it's on the list of things uh to do. There's a lot there's a long list of things to do. Um the uh like right now I'm totally into I want to try and do a weekly treasure map thing because treasure map uh especially the Dawn Trail treasure map drops, the the glam drops have been excellent. Have you seen the cloth of legend? Um the cloth of legend drops out of the new uh treasure maps, and it creates some of the prettiest glam. Holy crap. That and the um if you haven't gotten a chance to try it out, the variant dungeon that came out in December, um, the new variant dungeon is amazing. Uh the if you're a level 90, it's actually a good way to to level characters because you actually get XP uh for leveling in the variant dungeons. I have tried kind of doing the advanced stuff, but I haven't really cleared anything yet because I've been able to prog it much. Um but I'm really super interested in going in and doing that. Uh, you only need to have um a minimum of two people to prog the advanced. So if you've got a buddy and you want to do that, jump in. I've nearly gotten, I think I've just gotten almost all of the glam out of the variant dungeon. Uh and it is also very good, especially if you love like a thousand and one of Arabian Knights or you know, Aladdin, that sort of thing. Yeah. It's very, very bad.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:31

No, I I think I do need to do more of it. I think I've cleared maybe three spots of it. I need to go into it. And I like the rest of it.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:42

But I've been like, We just got okay. So my disappointment with it, I will say, is that for clearing all of the routes on the normal, uh, you don't get a mount anymore, which is a little frustrating. Uh instead, you get uh a faceware item. Um, and the thing that I'm most frustrated by is that it's a faceware item that's technically already a headpiece in the game. It is uh the choke, I think it's like the pajama eye mask or whatever it was from the end of Endwalker. Yeah, it's that they turned that into a faceware item, which of course means that it can now be, you know, it has a better die scheme, I guess, and you can wear it with headpieces, which is, you know, is always nice. But uh it's um I apologize for all that. But uh that's why I've been trying to be quiet around it. But anyway, uh the but yeah, no, it's it's the the glam I didn't it's it's okay. It's okay. But I yeah, I'm uh I'm gonna I'm gonna give a criticism there. I'm not happy about it. I was I was actually really upset to find out that the mounts are attached to having to do the advanced stuff, which you know, I would have I'm fine with them having mounts as as rewards for doing the advanced, but why can't we get a mount for for completing all 12? Because at least it's a grind reward, right? Yeah, and it at least follows the same expectation that we had from previous.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:32

But to to then not give us yeah, that's just that that's a little weird because like all the other ones, like you said, it's like they gave out mop rewards, and now you're gonna switch it up and you're gonna give us an an eye a facewear.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:52

And it's literally it's literally just it's like the sleeping mask thing, and don't get me wrong, people have gone to Directions with it, but it's still technically that's something that's available in the game, and it's an item from the previous expansion, so it feels lazy. It feels lazy. I don't like it because it feels lazy. Yeah, I don't like lazy rewards, they're frustrating to me.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:24

Yeah, I I don't know how to feel about that. Um yeah, that's that's disappointing. That's disappointing.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:31

Yeah, yeah. But at the same time, doing going through and doing all 12 of the routes, and they are fun to do. So if you're someone who's just motivated by doing the routes themselves, and then being able to get enough of the uh the shards, the pot shards or whatever they are, uh to be able to turn in to get the the glam or the bot items, it's totally worth it. Totally worth it. So I'm not trying to convince people not to do the variant dungeon, but it's like if you feel like you have to be completionist on all 12, no, you don't. You absolutely don't. All you have to do is just meet and defeat the boss for each one of the main lines, and then you can go directly into the advanced. Which that makes a guess a nice change for that, but I still would have liked to mount reward. Dang it. I put all the effort into clearing all 12 lines, uh 13, technically, 13 lines. I want my mount.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:32

Yes. Uh yeah, do all that and your job quests.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:37

Right? Do your job quest. Anyway. Uh you're in her ear. Anyway, way too many times at this point. Uh, they also made some. Oh, by the way, if you do uh go into to um PvP, those of you out there listening who do, um how do people feel about the changes to Battle High? How do you feel about that? Have you have you played a lot of front lines to be able to like get a hold on it? Because it's weird.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:05

Not really. Um, I think I only started frontline like as of this recording, like four days ago. Uh so I've only done like maybe three front lines. Okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:08:21

So let me give a quick breakdown. Let me give a quick breakdown of how it works. So previously, whenever you would die, if you had any bottle high, which battle high has gained from either um uh clapping cheeks real hard uh in in assistance to your buddies, or it is uh actually capping somebody. Like you, if you get a death, then you would get a fair amount of battle high. Um now the amount of battle high that you get for killing someone who has no battle high has been reduced. But if you come across somebody who has battle high, you get more points towards your battle high if you cap them. So if uh you happen to have no battle high and you come across somebody who has uh maximum battle high and you magically either assist or kill that person, then hey, your battle high goes up faster.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:19

Oh wow.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:20

Uh even better, when you die, your battle high does not get reduced or taken away.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:26

Oh, that's awesome anymore.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:28

Right. Unless uh you get killed, as far as I can tell, um, you get killed a second time without gaining any battle high, then it will get reduced.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:41

Ah, I see.

SPEAKER_00 1:09:42

So the first time you die, essentially, you don't have it reduced. But the second time, if you die without gaining any battle high or not gaining enough or whatever, then you you won't you do actually see a reduction in your battle high. So um that's an interesting change. I kind of like it, but at the same time, I don't I'm very confused on some of the matrices of it. No, how much you lose depending on who kills you or whatever or what it's related to. And that's just down to I haven't spent enough time doing it, so I'll I'll get a better handle on that later.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:26

No, I I I could say that on that. I I'm gonna have to I'm definitely gonna be playing a lot more front lines, so probably not our next podcast. Uh we will I'll I'll be able to understand it a lot more um than this time around.

SPEAKER_00 1:10:41

Uh for just keep in mind for anybody who is listening, like the next patch that's coming up is 7.51. Okay, 7.51 is our uh our odd patch. Odd patches are when we see custom deliveries, we see um the the in-between stuff. There's usually uh for this one, we're gonna have one big, huge drop, and then what are considered to be, I guess, smaller drops along with it, because we're getting custom deliveries, we're getting auntie tees, we're gonna get some tacos, we're gonna help make them tackles. Yes. Uh, I'm looking forward to that. Those stories are usually fun. Um, and then we're gonna be getting uh uh the last location, our last planet for uh cosmic exploration. So if you want to build up your tools or you want to um just see how the last planet plays out, now's a good time to do it. Uh the big thing though is gonna be the ultimate rate is getting dropped. We're getting dancing mad ultimate. And people are already arguing over the name. Have you seen the arguments over the name?

SPEAKER_01 1:12:05

Why are they arguing over dancing mad?

SPEAKER_00 1:12:08

Okay, well, you know how uh the ultimate weapon or the what is it, what is it that everybody I know everybody calls it U. Right. That's not what it's called, though. That's not the actual name of it.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:23

It's like the ultimate weapon. Um, oh geez, what is it called? Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:30

I have to look this up now because like I know it's under high-end duty and we have raids.

SPEAKER_01 1:12:38

Uh it's not the ultimate weapon refrain.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:44

Okay, so they see ultimate weapon refrain, it's actually UWR, right? Uh but but um, or the weapons, it's the weapons refrain ultimate, is actually what it's called. The weapons refrain ultimate. So the weapons refrain ultimate got turned into uwoo. Because it's the ultima weapon ultimate is technically what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:15

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:13:15

So it's like uh the unending coil of Bahamut Ultimate got turned into UCOB because it just very quickly shortens into that. Yes, and then you have the epic of Alexander became T because the Epic Alexander T. Yes, T. Alright, so then we have the Omega Protocol became top, so on and so forth. So very simple. We got uh, you know, what is it? Uh then you have fru for um, you know, girlfriend, and then and then but this last one, all of the casuals, all of the non-top raiders want to call it, oh god, it what is it, damn you. They want to call it damn you.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:07

I thought I thought I read you mad. Isn't that what is it?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:10

And then oh, that's right, they want to call it you mad. All of the uh the the raiders want to just call it uh uh dancing mad and just want to leave it at that. Because of course, you know, they're very serious people, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:26

Obviously.

SPEAKER_00 1:14:27

Obviously, and all of the but yes, all the casuals, all the filthy casuals are like, you mad, you mad, you mad?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:35

Are you mad?

SPEAKER_00 1:14:37

And of course we have brought back the you mad face, the you mad bro face has become now the the the ultimate, and of course, all of the actual raid teams that are getting prepped for for doing the the ultimate the first race. Um uh what is it? My brain's starting to slow down.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:58

We have to wrap this up. Yeah, we do. But um, my brain is starting to slow down.

SPEAKER_00 1:15:03

World first, world first. So you have the world first, um, and that's a big thing. In fact, there's gonna be a huge um like uh raid stream that's gonna go on. Uh, usually, what is it? Uh you have Frosty from Mog Talk. Mog Talk is like the home of all World First for uh Final Fantasy XIV. And that is literally Mog Talk M-O-G-T-A-L-K dot com. Mogtalk.com. Have and they especially for ultimates, they have a charity stream where uh they take donations and um they they help a charity out based on uh the viewership and they watch uh for um the the first uh the person who does first clear on ultimate. So Dancing Mad, of course, is being set up right now, and it's going to drop June 2nd. That's when the excitement begins, y'all. Uh for world first for um Dancing Mad. I don't know even know how much we're gonna see of. I know that they they hinted when we got to see the the the bits and pieces uh from the uh keynote, we got to see uh the dancing mad, we got to see God Kefka, we got to see, we got to see bits and pieces. So I don't know how much how much translation from the savage fight we're actually gonna see.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:42

See, um my thing is though, like all we saw was Kevka, right? Kevka, which um which all the mechanics that I saw was pretty much uh stem from the savage fight. Now because it's an ultimate it there's gonna there's multiple layers to the fight to begin with. So what we did not see is the war and triad. And if you have not played which if you have not played six, uh the war and triad were like these three gods that was balancing the um the world, essentially.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:18

The world's well we we get that in heaven's work, right? We get like a version of the war and triad.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:25

But like, are we gonna are we gonna get the true war and triad of or are we just going to get extra phases of like god Kafka? I that would be interesting if they if they'd gone that route because there was only two phases of Kevka in six, which which we saw, which you only which you saw in in Savage.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:51

So right I um but isn't there also what something something something that somebody mentioned about like the pinnacle and uh Kevka Pinnacle and stuff like that, or am I thinking of something else?

SPEAKER_01 1:18:06

Might be something else at this point. Um fair enough. But you I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:10

I never played six, so I for me I'm just sitting here going, ooh, big fight.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:19

You know, and this this is come this is gonna be something where I I may tune in just to see what the fight's gonna be about. And normally I like to go in, you know, relatively blind, unless, you know, you know, some uh you know a raid leader is like, hey, I need you to watch this video. I'm like, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:38

Well, I mean, there's gonna I I know that the that we've got um we we have the Sprout to Ultimate group in uh HJP, and there has been a huge push for Uwoo. Um I know that some people were uh trying to get uh at least to see the the end of that fight before fan fest.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:04

But I know that y'all are still working towards that, so that's just an ongoing thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:10

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:11

Um I personally I like watching the ultimate fights, but I've tried, I've come in and I've like guest starred and I've helped out uh with some of the the early bits of the fight. I don't really have an interest in doing ultimates just because it's it's way too much sustained stuff over time, and I need more breaks for my hands, uh arthritis. It is in fact a beat, a giant, giant B-I-T-C-H. Um, I I'm not fond, we don't get along. Like we are not friends. So I play the game as best I can with what I got, and while I think I do a pretty dang good job of it, uh there are things I struggle with, and sustained play over long periods of time is one of those things. Um and so uh ultimates are kind of like outside of my range without being able to take breaks, and that's hard when you have what is it? Uh if you do everything perfectly, Uwoo is still a like 21-minute fight.

SPEAKER_01 1:20:21

Yeah, I and at this point, like we're where we are right now, uh, with the Buccaneers and Clan Nazi and everything. Uh, we are only up until uh Titan at this point. So it's like we're I we're like just about halfway, maybe I think. I don't know, halfway into the fight, but like even then, like getting to that point, my like at a certain point, my hand starts to cramp up and everything like yeah, well, it's pretty it's pretty common.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:52

Yeah, yeah, it does. Getting old does suck, it does suck. And there are some people who are just not even in tight like 100% on on doing it uh raids in general, and that's fine. The game includes all that, but that's the next thing we're looking at. So if if you're into the crafting and gathering, 7.51 is definitely gonna have stuff for you if you are down to at least watch, which I heard they're they're adding in a ton of like new sound, uh what is it, new voice acting, and we're getting more um more lines got added. Like, like it's a whole experience now.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:38

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:40

I would never want to UFC fight, but I'll be honest, I've watched some of it. It's kind of fun to watch. And yeah, WWE don't want to do it, but I will definitely watch it.

SPEAKER_01 1:21:54

But uh no, it it sounds like a good time. I've not done a a savage fight, and like I'm looking forward to watching someone else do a savage fight because I would rather let them experience it as well. I'm sorry, yeah, the the ultimate fights uh as opposed to uh being in it, but even though we are doing oowoo uh and everything, but it's it's for me, it is fun. Um, but for the uh for for uh I don't even know, you mad, I guess, for Kevka.

SPEAKER_00 1:22:28

You mad, you mad, bro. You mad. All right, so anyway, uh we've got a lot going forward. I think at this point we've kind of gone over it. I'm still kind of filling the doldrums a little bit though, because you know how there's always that dip that happens, like the new stuff that comes out, you get to experience all of it, um, the big changes that come through, and then there's that point where you kind of get that dip right before the next uh the next patch comes through, and then then the excitement builds again and again and again. Yeah, so I'm still feeling it right there. I'm I'm trapped in cosmic exploration because I do want to get because I'm so look, I'm a simple creature. I saw somebody making things with the new cosmic weapons, and it makes little planets go around your head while you're crafting stuff, and I have to have that. I'm sorry, that's important.

SPEAKER_01 1:23:19

Okay, yeah. I I'm gonna have to join you in uh cosmic aspiration just for that sounds ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:25

You and me, we're getting on a plane, we're gonna we're we're getting on a space shuttle, we're going to the moon, playing out with bunnies, and we'll we'll make ourselves some cosmic stuff. So in the meantime, they've there's some really cool stuff coming down the line, and I am super excited for it. But right now, I've I think that uh we've talked out our reactions. I've been very excited about 7.5. I am stupid excited for the next fan fest. And in fact, I think we're gonna do something exciting for this new fan fest. What do you think?

SPEAKER_01 1:23:59

What's that gonna be?

SPEAKER_00 1:24:01

Ooh, I think that for the first time ever, let us do a live stream. So everybody mark your calendar. It's gonna be kind of early in the morning, but we are gonna be live streaming probably at least half the day on um July 25th, so that we can go over the uh the keynote and go over all the new things that are getting dropped. You're gonna get live reactions from me, live reactions from Hula uh Hookah, and we're gonna we're just gonna go over everything that's going on in real time this time.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:34

And then, you know, I'm probably gonna be drinking a lot of coffee because it's gonna be so early in the morning.

SPEAKER_00 1:24:41

So much coffee, so many things. Oh my goodness. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:24:45

I might have to I might have to bring in my coffee maker and just set it right next to me and just mute my mic. It's just it's gonna sit right here, and I'm gonna make my coffee, mute my mic so I can make my coffee and everything.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:04

Smell a little coffee friend. Yeah, absolutely. All right, so we've that's the plan right now. We're we're getting it set up. We're gonna have we're gonna have a live show for you, breaking down, talking about, showing our reactions to the latest uh fan fest, and then I think we're gonna be doing that one in October too. So uh if the if the live live um stream goes well, I'm excited for it. Come hang out with us.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:32

I'm excited to be excited with us, join us.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:36

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:37

This is probably gonna be my first time doing something live like this. Uh and it's gonna be really fun with you. And I I it's gonna be a great time.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:46

It's gonna be a blast. Hell yeah. I'm I it I will admit I really missed y'all being at the the thing and me not being able to go because having our reactions live, I think, would have been a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:57

Yes.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:58

But I'm so glad you got to experience the the fan fest because it it looked like it was just the best time.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:06

I learned a lot during that trip. I learned uh what not to do, uh, and then what I need to do next time to try to live stream something, or at least not really try to live stream, but I'm probably just gonna just do a recording of my reactions.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:25

Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:26

So that's that that's for the next time. In three years.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:31

Well that oh yeah, we'll see how it goes down. We've got time to plan, you know. You know, uh, we can do this. All right, so I'm gonna go ahead and um pack up and head off to the void because I have some some little voidlings I need to take care of. And uh, I think uh I will see you in the next one.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:51

And may all your etherite travels be free.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:56

See ya.

SPEAKER_01 1:26:57

Bye.